Sep 302012
 

OK Jokerholics,

Are you all ready for the Clown Prince of Crime’s return? If you are, then get your release dates clear as DC has revealed the whole “DEATH OF THE FAMILY” checklist.  No excuse for missing an issue now, right?

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OCTOBER 2012

  • BATGIRL #13 (Prelude to “Death of the Family”)
  • CATWOMAN #13 (Prelude of “Death of the Family”)
  • BATMAN #13

NOVEMBER 2012

  • BATGIRL #14
  • BATMAN #14
  • CATWOMAN #14
  • SUICIDE SQUAD #14

DECEMBER 2012

  • BATGIRL #15
  • BATMAN #15
  • BATMAN AND ROBIN #15
  • DETECTIVE COMICS #15
  • RED HOOD AND THE OUTLAWS #15
  • SUICIDE SQUAD #15
  • TEEN TITANS #15

JANUARY 2013

  • BATGIRL #16
  • BATMAN #16
  • BATMAN AND ROBIN #16
  • DETECTIVE COMICS #16
  • NIGHTWING #16
  • RED HOOD AND THE OUTLAWS #16
  • TEEN TITANS #16

FEBRUARY 2013

  • BATMAN #17

(Checklist courtesy of DC Blog)

 

Sep 302012
 

Our friends from NEWSARAMA have made a nice rummary of the facts we have about Joker’s return, and bring forth some of the worries some of us have regarding the Clown’s return. Here is a transcript, make your own conclusions:

Now that all the Batman family books have revealed their #0 issues, the stage is set for October’s start of “Death of the Family,” which brings Joker to the Bat-books in a big way.

The event, which will have tie-ins in several DC comics, spins out of a story starting in Batman #13 by Scott Snyder and Greg Capullo. After the success of their “Court of Owls” storyline and the subsequent tie-in event “Night of the Owls,” DC is hoping this event will be even bigger.

Snyder is getting to utilize his favorite Batman rogue for his follow-up to “Court of Owls,” calling this the biggest, most impactful Joker story in years.

“This is really my big exploration and love letter to the Joker,” Snyder told Newsarama.

So what clues have we been given about the New 52 version of The Joker? How will his return impact the Bat-family characters, now that their histories have changed? And what have the Bat-writers been hinting about their tie-ins to “Death of the Family?”

Secret Identity

At the heart of the “Death of the Family” storyline appears to be the question of whether or not The Joker knows the identities of the Bat-family and, in turn, Batman himself.

The solicitations for the “Death of the Family” issues of Batman includes this question: “What must Batman do to protect his secret identity and that of those who fight alongside him?”

Scott Lobdell also revealed a similar description to Newsarama in our recent interview:

“Joker may or may not know your identity, and that is maybe the most horrifying part,” Lobdell said. “Imagine, as crazy as the Joker is, you can at least go to bed secure in the knowledge that once you take off the mask you are a little safer. But if he knows who you are….aiyeee!”

Changed Joker?

Although there have been several changes to DCnU characters thanks to last year’s reboot, Snyder indicated in an interview with Newsaramathat this isn’t a different version of the Joker.

“You will see the iconic face and the grin, and he might look a little bit different and scarier,” Snyder said. “But you’ll find that he’s still himself at his core. And he’s really here in his blood-stained clothes going to work.”

The history of the relationship between The Joker and Batman — like The Joker being his greatest enemy and the terrible things he’s done to Jason and the other members of the Bat-family — are still a part of the DCU history. And according to Snyder, they fuel this storyline.

And although The Joker has been gone from the pages of the DCnU for the last year, according to Snyder, he’s been spending that time planning and planting traps. “A year ago, Joker decided, I’m going to walk away from Gotham, I’m going to plan my revenge, and I’m going to come back in a year and bring it all back,” the writer said. “So this is what he’s been planning to do for a long time. And all of those things are set in motion.”

“Of The Family?”

While Snyder has promised that the story in Batman will be “100 percent self-contained,” the story crosses over into several other titles.

From the latest solicitations, we’ve learned that Joker’s revenge is not just aimed at the good guys. Harley Quinn apparently wasn’t involved in the planning by “Mista J,” because DC is touting their “reunion” in Suicide Squad #14 and #15. The Joker will also target a few of Gotham’s criminals in Catwoman #13 and #14, Detective Comics #15 (The Penguin), and the back-ups of the Batmantitle.

As James Tynion IV told Newsarama earlier this week, “There’s always something electric when two iconic villains are on a page with one another, and when one of those characters is The Joker, that electricity is quite a bit more deadly.”

Former Robin Dick Grayson will be confronted by The Joker in Nightwing #15 and #16. Series writer Kyle Higgins told Newsarama that Barbara Gordon/Batgirl shows up within the Nightwingstory.

“The Joker story is really a huge turning point and changes a lot of things” for Nightwing”, Higgins said. “There will be seismic shifts coming out of the Joker story.”

The Joker also gets to battle the current Red Robin, Tim Drake, in Teen Titans #15 and #16, and the current Robin, Damian Wayne, in Batman and Robin #14 & 15.

But perhaps the most anticipated reunion will be those between The Joker and the two more immediate members of Batman’s heroic family who have been traumatized by him in the past.

As readers found out in Red Hood and the Outlaws #0, Jason Todd is more closely connected to The Joker than her realizes. Joker claims that he orchestrated most of the major events in Jason’s life, from his father going to jail to his mother’s OD on a drug laced with a chemical that simulates death. It appears that The Joker built Jason up, just so he could tear him down.

This adds more gravity to their meeting — something Lobdell hinted about in his interview with us. “Joker feels a lot closer to Jason than people have realized. Giving birth to someone is a very intimate experience, but so too is taking their life. In that way, Joker feels a sort of proprietary relationship with Jason that he doesn’t with any of the other Bat-family.”

In Batgirl, readers will also finally see the resolution of Barbara Gordon’s conflict with The Joker, although series writer Gail Simone is reluctant to say it “resolves” the emotional trauma she’s been portraying within Barbara for the last year.

“‘Resolved’ is kind of a tough word, here,” Simone told Newsarama in July. “There’s definitely a feeling out there regarding this stuff that someone is fixed or not fixed, like an on/off switch. It’s not that binary, but she is facing this stuff head on. And I am pretty sure a Joker/Batgirl story is inevitable, but I can’t say more than that. Think of two trains on the same track facing towards each other…there’s nowhere for either of them to go but towards collision.

“It is the once-and-for-all confrontation between the Batgirl and the man who shot and paralyzed her. It does not go as he expected,” she said.

“This story starts in issue #14, and I have to say, it’s pretty shocking. That’s all I’ll say right now, however.”

The Mask of Joker

One of the most obvious changes to the Joker we’ll see in “Death of the Family” is that he’s wearing the loose skin of his face as a mask.

“He really is going to, obviously, have a new look. At the same time, we want it to echo his iconic look,” Snyder told Newsarama. “So it’s Joker in a much more horror movie fashion.”

In Detective Comics #1, released in September 2011, a villain called Dollmaker literally surgically removedthe skin of The Joker’s face at the end of the issue. The police ended up with the “face” and put it on ice, but The Joker himself had gotten away…. and has apparently been walking around the DCU without a face ever since.

Or perhaps he has been wearing a different face? Maybe even the face of someone close to the Batman family?

It’s doubtful, since Snyder didn’t build this story from the Detective ending. He told Newsarama his “Death of the Family” story was formulated before Detective writer Tony Daniel chose how to end his first issue last year.

Thanks to that ending, The Joker has not been seen again in the New 52 universe until just last month in Detective Comics #12, when only his eyes were shown and he said, “Time to put on a happy face.”

So what will Joker look like when he returns?

On the cover of Batgirl #15, DC revealed the basics of how the Joker will now “wear” his familiar smiling face. He has constructed a mask out of the skin of his face, using hooks and a belt wrapped around the back of his head.

But artist Greg Capullo intends to make that look even creepier than we’ve seen on that cover. “I’ve established the main look with the belt in the back and the hooks in the mouth, kind of holding everything in place, but think about that,” he told CBR. “You move in different ways, and that skin can shift on you. Maybe a hook busts loose, and part of your face is flapping free.

“I’ve even talked about the fact, with Scott, that being that the face isn’t on ice in Gotham P.D. evidence anymore, it’d start to decay, right?” he said. “And things that decay stinks a bit and attracts flies, and it might be cool for little touches with flies swimming around his head here or there. It can change is what I’m trying to say. It’ll probably look different through the story than the prototype face you’ve seen so far.”

But perhaps the most telling comment Capullo has made about the way Joker will look was in his Newsarama interview a couple months ago, when he said, simply, “it’s going to be over-the-top, over-the-edge Joker stuff.”

 

(Copied from original article by Vaneta Rogers for NEWSARAMA HERE)

Sep 202012
 

batmanrobin14coverSee, when you start to hear things like Joker’s return will be influencing all this titles (Catwoman, Batgirl, Nightwing, Batman and Robin, Suicide Squad) makes the little girl in me squeal with joy.  Are they really going to show that Joker is indeed a “FORCE OF NATURE” and is able to turn the schemes of heroes and villains alike upside down and become a true “AGENT OF CHAOS”?

Yes, I know I’m quoting DARK KNIGHT Joker here, but though I have to admit I loved late Ledger’s portrayal of my favorite villain, what I like most is what Nolan did with the character.  He brought  the villain from the flat pages of a comic book to the dimensions of a world that closely resemble ours, making Joker into a more realistic menace than we have been used to. And that just terrified us.

For too long, Joker has just annoyed the hell out of Batman, then back to the asylum he has gone, only to repeat this vicious cycle over and over again through the ages with no real trascendence in HIS REAL WORLD. Just count how many Jokercentric stories DC has made in the last 20-30 years.

But the Clown refuses to stay in the bleachers and watch, he is not the type that likes routines. Joker says:  No more Mr. Nice Psycho Clown, Gotham…This is the new me and Joker is ready for his closeup now and he’s doing it by causing a megaquake within the Batman (and some of DC’s) universe.

This rebirth has been promised as the worst nightmare for the Batman family and Gotham, and though promises are just promises until we see the facts, the real issue here is that Joker is going to demonstrate his real prowess, what he does best. Turn world’s order upside down and twist good and evil together in one tight knot.

The question that rises is…would DC fulfill his promise and bring us a Joker that is worthy of the name?

In the past we have seen many editorial decisions been taken on the view of how profitable it is or not, and if it is…how can it be make it even more profitable forgtting about the content of the story. Don’t take me wrong. I don’t mind DC making profit on his creations..after all it is the base of a healthy economy, but changing characters’ core in a way that they become almost irrecognizable from the ones we have loved for decades, well…that is just unforgivable and unfortunately, that is what I am seeing hapenning to villains and markedly, to Joker himself.

We are promised a Joker that will rock our world, but look at the advertising of the event all around and what do we see?  We do not want to see Freddy Krueger, nor another Leatherface, even less a mindless murderer who just adds victims to his body count for a space in the Guinness books of records.  (We have enough of those in the comic books, like Victor Zsazs–well pointed out by a friend in this very forum).  We don’t need a murderer for the sake of murder or gore, we want a  new and improved Joker worthy of the new 52 generation.

My friends Laughing Fish and Antonia have expressed their worries too as to where DC is taking the Joker reboot, and I share those worries too, but why worry now and not just wait till the story is done?  Well, because by then it might be to late to mend errors.  After all this is the Joker we will have to deal with for the next 100 years  and we’re scared of what is going to be like….

My passion for villains comes not from the fact that I like to do evil (PLEASE! nothing could not be farther from the truth), and that is not what this site is for either.  This site stands to honor the very embodiment of what heroes and common folks need to defeat.  Fear, anger, rage, hate, chaos…and before you all go around and call the guys with the white coats and straitjackets to pick me up let me explain why.

jokerlastlaugh01You cannot enjoy the ability to see if you don’t know what it feels like to be blind. You cannot praise light, if you didn’t have darkness  to compare it to. How could you tell if something is sweet if you did not know what sour taste in your mouth?  You cannot appreciate goodness and kindness if you do not know evil and selfishness. We cannot understand Batman’s triumphs and perils without a Joker to compare him to.  But Joker is much more than just the Dark Knight’s antithesis… right?

Joker (like most successful villains) is the very embodiment of our own faults, mishaps, defects and our darkest selves and desires.  Joker is the cake that you know looks scrumptious but you know will give you a heart attack.

That is why his character has endured the trials of time for close to a century now.

And yes, I am saying there are “Jokers” living inside us and I mean…all of us.  We fight with those little Jokers every day, hoping to win and be better people than we were the day before.  That is why characters like Joker, Darth Vader, Hannibal Lecter, Severus Snape or Loki endure so much on  the literature and arealso enjoyed in the big screen.  They are us…up there, clashing with  with the other part of us….(the hero) for a common goal, make a change, and if they can be defeated, so can our inner “jokers”. Life might look simpler without the evils of the world, but let’s face it…life would be EXTREMELY boring if we did not have a challenge or two to confront. As contradictory as it sounds…it is the villain who brings the best in the hero  At least that’s how I see it.  Fighting the bad (both inside and outside) should make us better, give meaning to our lives and makes us value what we believe, have and do. We need villains as much as we need heroes to defeat them and the closer these villains resemble us, the more terrifying they are.

That said, in a kind of tangent discourse, just means that in entertainment (comics, movies, books) we enjoy villains that are a lot like us. We are not midless cattle pasturing in a grassy plain.  The same way we are capable of good deeds, we also manipulate, we lie, we confuse, we take adventage of others, we break the norm, we jump over the obstacles to get to our goals, we want to see those we blame for our circumstances to pay accordingly.  That is why we can empathasize with a villain that in some many ways like us.  Take away those similarities, turn him into an automaton with a machine gun  and endless rounds of ammo and he becomes flatten, insipid, distant and unfortunately untrascendent in his media.  (continues next page)

Aug 172012
 

coverbatman14-2When I read this, I didn’t know what to make of it.  So those pics out there (and that you can see in one of my previous posts) not the final product?  Of course no…they are probably a marketing gimmick to keep the fans speculating in the hopes that it will increase the sales.  Who knows, but DC?  ME…I will wait for the final product and then emit the final verdict (after all I was not too fond of the face peeling at the beggining, until I imagined the possibilities). I just want to bring you the point of view from everybody involved with the Joker reboot.

Now the turn goes to Greg Capullo himself who was upset with the leakage of (supposed) images from BATMAN #14 and BATGIRL #14.  Listen to him…

Apparently, though, fan-favorite Batman artist Greg Capullo wasn’t particularly happy with even that much leaking, and took to his Twitter page to vent his frustration and to promise fans a more memorable, terrifying vision of The Joker when his interpretation of the character, appearing in the Scott Snyder-written Batman book, appears in the context of the story.

 

 

Says Capullo:

“As careful as I’ve been to save revealing our new Joker, the powers that be have let it out ahead if our book. Stay tuned fir MY pics.

“In my younger days, I’d have punched several holes in the walls of my office by now. Rest assured, I will give you terror when I draw him.

“When I draw it, THAT will be it.

“Try not to look at it. Wait for ours if you can.

“The more I’ve thought about the Joker leak, the more I began thinking that it may have been for the best. The fact is, the way Scott and I.. will give you the Joker may have been too much for some with out this diluted sample hitting the web. DC, rightly so, had concerns about- Our images and story. Perhaps they leaked this intentionally to test the waters or to acclimate your minds to what is coming from us.

“Team Batman knows how to do one thing. Destroy. So, even if you do see the leak, you ain’t seen nothing yet. Trust me.

“I’m still not going to reveal my sketches. I won’t let this incident blow the whole works. Be patient. Terror is heading your way.”

 

(Original Source: Report by Russ Burlingame for ComicBook.com)

Aug 172012
 

Jock is going to be the back up artist for the Joker story arc in Batman #13-16 and he tweeted this image to BLEEDING COOL who were nice enough to share it with the world.  Million thanks to COMICS XAMINER.COM for sharing this pic

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Aug 172012
 

The covers for the November issues of BATMAN #14 and BATGIRL #14 have been circulating for the last few days, allowing for a little tease for the fans of the Clown Prince of Crime.  While many people thought that DC was trying to bring Joker to his TDK look, the images show something different entirely…and the one for Batgirl makes me wonder if he has some unfinished business in mind with Barbara Gordon after The Killing Joke.  Anyways…Here are the previews:

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BATMAN #14: Joker  ia getting ready for business…

 

 

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BATGIRL #14 : Who ever said that Joker was not a romantic?

(Pics courtesy of ComicBookMovies.com. Thanks friends!)

 

Aug 052012
 

detectivecomics12For those of you that are not following comics, I remind you that Joker will be coming back to Gotham and the DC Universe this next October.  I knew they would do something in BATMAN #0, to tease the fans a little of what was to come, but was not expecting the back story on this month’s DETECTIVE COMICS #12… It seems Joker is not only ready to rock and roll, but that our good old Lieutenant Bullock has develop a perverted sense of humor…didn’t see THAT one coming.  Bullock never hit me as a joker…no pun intended.

For you I will share the pages of back story, you guys let me know what you think.  Personally, I will wait until I see what they have in store for my clown.  It’s not the first time I’ve been disappointed by those pesky DC editors:

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Jul 182012
 

Man, I’m trying to takes things easy. Put my expectations so high for the new Joke story arc that Snyder and Capullo are brewing is not something I want to do now. Not because of them, but because of the other writers before that promised so much and hardly delivered half of what they promised.

But Snyder keeps throwing snippets of information that just peeks my curiosity even more.  I am really looking for the october issue of Batman to see what they have concocted for the Joker fans out there that miss the o’l Clown.  Here’s Snyner’s latest  tease from a panel at SDCC:

Some preview art was displayed of an upcoming Joker arc. Snyder told the crowd that it’s been too long since there’s been an epic Joker story. He asked the crowd to shout out the last great Joker story they remembered. Most answers were older books, like “The Killing Joke” and “Arkham Asylum.”
“What I’m asking you is, why hasn’t [Joker] been in comics in fucking 10 years? Besides movies and animation? Where is the great, big Joker story where he says ‘F-U Batman, I’m back?’ Where has that been?
If we do the Joker, it’s got to be the biggest, baddest blood-on-the-floor story,” Snyder said, to applause. “No one will want to touch him for another 20 years.”
Snyder said his take on the Joker is essentially that the Joker thinks he serves Batman. He brings Batman’s worst dreams to life.
“And if [Batman] doesn’t respect that, and you get fat and slow, I’ll have an axe to grind, and I’ll come after you,” he said.

MAN! I CAN’T WAIT FOR BATMAN 13!!

Jul 102012
 

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Scott Snyder was not shy to share his points of view with the staff at Newsarama regarding the Joker’s return.  Here is the full report as posted in their website:

Joker is not only returning to the pages of Batman. He’s targeting characters in several other DC comics later this year and into early 2013.

“Death of the Family,” the next major Batman storyline that starts in October, will also eventually bring the Joker into comics like Batgirl, Batman and Robin, Suicide Squad, Nightwing, Red Hood and the Outlaws, Catwoman, and Teen Titans.

Scott Snyder, the writer of DC’s best-selling title Batman, said that he and the other “Death of the Family” writers are working to make sure the stories are self-contained enough that readers don’t have to buy multiple comics to understand them. He said the tie-ins will be somewhat similar to the structure used for “Night of the Owls,” the Batman event that spilled into other comics in May.

Drawn by Greg Capullo, the Joker story in Batman will run for five issues beginning in October’s issue #13. The final issue, in Batman #17, will be oversized. Snyder will also write the back-up stories in Batmanas part of his Joker story.

The writer said “Death of the Family” will focus on Joker’s psychology, using symbolic themes like the idea of a court jester and a tarot card. Snyder called it his “love letter to the Joker,” stating that it’s one of the biggest stories ever done that featured the character in a lead role.

“Death of the Family” will bring back Joker after the character appeared briefly in Detective Comics #1 in September 2011. However, in that issue, the character had his face literally removed at the end of the issue, and has not been seen again in the New 52 universe.

What does his return mean for members of the Batman family? How well does Batman know the Joker in the New 52 anyway? And what makes this story different from other Batman vs. Joker stories? Newsarama talked with Snyder to find out more.

Newsarama: Scott, you’ve been hinting to me for months that you were doing your “favorite villain” in the next storyline. Is this something you’ve wanted to do for awhile?

Scott Snyder: I’ve been dying to do this, like, forever! This is my chance to do my favorite villain of all time in the biggest and craziest way I could possibly imagine. And it’s a story that I’ve had in mind for, I’d say, a good seven, eight or nine months. And it started forming before I even did the “Court of Owls.” So this is really my big exploration and love letter to the Joker overall.

Nrama: Did you coordinate with Tony Daniel the appearance in Detective Comics?

Snyder: Yeah, I did. What happened was, DC wanted to take the Joker away for a little while to give room to some new villains that they were creating in the New 52. And I had said that I had an idea for a Joker story down the line. Tony had a couple different ways that he was thinking of making it possible for the Joker to go away for a bit. And in doing so, we talked about his possibility as something we both liked. I thought this one would tail really, really well into this story. And whichever one Tony picked, I knew I could work with it. And this was the one he really wanted to go with. So I figured I’d tail off of that into this story.

But this story didn’t come from that ending. This story was sort of beginning to be built before that. And then there were a number of different endings in Detective that could have worked. But that one was the one Tony wanted to write. And I think it’s going to work really, really well here.

Nrama: It certainly gives Greg the freedom to play around with the way Joker looks. Can you tell us anything about what we’re going to see from the character?

Snyder: He really is going to, obviously, have a new look. At the same time, we want it to echo his iconic look. So it’s Joker in a much more horror movie fashion.

But, without giving too much away, you will see the iconic face and the grin, and he might look a little bit different and scarier. But you’ll find that he’s still himself at his core. And he’s really here in his blood-stained clothes going to work.

Nrama: So like the title sounds, this is the Joker wanting to really tear down the “Bat” and his family, with a plan behind what he’s doing?

Snyder: Yeah, this is the Joker having been away for a year planning all of this stuff, like planting traps and seeds and all kinds of stuff that are going to come to fruition in this thing.

A year ago, Joker decided, I’m going to walk away from Gotham, I’m going to plan my revenge, and I’m going to come back in a year and bring it all back. So this is what he’s been planning to do for a long time. And all of those things are set in motion.

Nrama: DC announced that the story would be felt throughout the Bat-family, so are we going to see this storyline spill into other titles at DC?

Snyder: Yeah, you’re going to see it in other comics. Batman is going to be 100 percent self-contained, like it was with “Night of the Owls.” You won’t have to read anything else to understand the story happening in Batman, at all. I promise you that.

But because the story is so big, and because Joker is attacking all those members of the Bat-family, essentially, to prove this point that he’s come back to Gotham to prove and to expose this secret that he has, you will see Joker attack Nightwing in Nightwing. And you’ll see him come after Batgirl in Batgirl. And you’ll see him go after Damian in Batman and Robin. And Tim, even, in Teen Titans. And Jason in Red Hood [and the Outlaws].

So there will be issues of those books that feature the Joker coming after him in ways that will be part of the moving parts of the bigger story. But they will all be self-contained, so you don’t need to read other books to follow the series that you love. They should be just completely individual still, in that way where you won’t have to read Nightwing to get a part of Batman.

I think that worked well for “Night of the Owls,” so it should work well here too.

But this story is much darker and much more personal.

Joker is coming after the Bat-family in ways where, it really is almost like when you think about it…. he hasn’t faced off with those characters, essentially, or directly, before.

People will say, “Oh, well, he came after Batgirl in The Killing Joke,” but he was really going after Commissioner Gordon. So when Batgirl realizes that here, too, it’s almost like the Joker is staring at her saying, “I’m coming after you this time. I’ll kill everyone and burn down everything in your life to do what I did to your father, but to you.” You know?

So in that way, he’s saying that to every member of the Bat-family. To Nightwing and everyone, saying, “You’ve never faced me before. I’ve never actually targeted you. I’ve only used you as pawns to get at Batman. So welcome to your worst nightmare.”

Nrama: How long are you planning the Batman story arc to be?

Snyder: In Batman, it’s going to go from #13 to #17. But #17 is going to be a giant issue, like an Annual-sized issue. And plus, it’s also going to be in the back-ups of Batman. So it’s going to probably be the equivalent, I would think, of about seven issues. But it will be those five.

Nrama: What’s the status of the relationship of Joker and Batman in the New 52? And how would you describe how this confrontation affects Batman?

Snyder: This storyline is predicated on the notion that the stuff that happened with the Joker in the past did happen. So Joker will be referencing things that happened in the past. That said, you won’t have to have read them to be able to follow this story at all. They will be explained or recounted in ways where this will be completely self-standing. I would never require you to go back and read stories from years ago to understand what was happening in mine.

But the history of their relationship, like the Joker being his greatest enemy and the terrible things he’s done to him and done to Jason and the other members of the Bat-family are all part of this. They fuel this storyline.

So in a way, he’s sort of saying, “You’ve created this false family around you. You’ve created this group of people. And I’m here to show you what’s wrong with that. And you’ve forgotten about me. And now I’m going to show you why that’s wrong. And I’m going to expose this secret. And in doing that, I’m going to tear you guys apart worse than you’ve ever seen.”

Nrama: I know that “Court of the Owls” was about Batman versus that group, but it had this kind of undercurrent of the story of Gotham, with the city almost being a member of the cast. Is there any theme like that within the Joker story?

Snyder: This one is really focused on the Joker’s psychology in a particular way, and his philosophy. And it’s something that I’ve been working on and tinkering with for months.

There’s a sort of symbolism to that that’s going to be thematic and explored when it comes to the idea of a court jester and a tarot card, and all of the other kinds of things that filter into the imagery of the Joker that he has kind of rattling around in his brain, and that he’s twisted into this very particular logic he follows.

So there will be a lot of things from, like — and I know this sounds crazy — but from Shakespearean imagery down to tarot card imagery, that will be a central theme of the whole thing.

This is really my exploration of who the Joker is, in terms of Batman, and who he thinks he is in relation to Batman.

This is my own sort of twisted love letter to the Joker.

Nrama: We have seen Bruce Wayne versus the Joker before. How is this different? Is it a matter of scale? Is it bigger in magnitude?

Snyder: Yeah, it’s definitely bigger in magnitude, in terms of the story. I mean, for better or worse, I feel so lucky to be able to write Batman all the time, and I feel like you get one chance to do it, so you’ve got to swing for the fence every time you get to work with your favorite material.

With this, Joker is my favorite villain, so I figure that if you’re going to use him, you’ve got to use him like you’ll never get a chance to use him again.

So it’s clearly bigger in magnitude than any story he’s had in awhile — maybe ever, honestly. I’d have to look back. But the fact that he’s in five big issues of Batman, and then he’s in the other Bat-books as he attacks those members of the family, all of it adds up to a massive, massive Joker story.

And in that way, it’s also a game-changer of a Joker story, you know? It really cuts to the core of who the Joker is, who Batman is in his mind and in relation to him, and really, who the Joker is to Batman too, in Bruce’s psychology.

So this is my exploration of those things in a way that’s meant to be as big and as broad and as deep as I could go. It’s not just a Joker story. This is really my big exploration of the Joker myself, in the way that I don’t know that I’d ever use him again after this, in the way that this is my huge Joker story, my personal Joker story to end all Joker stories, you know?

And you know, as prevalent as the Joker is in other media, he really hasn’t had that many central stories in comics in the last 20 years. He played a big part in “No Man’s Land,” and you obviously can go back to The Killing Joke and stuff like that. And he plays a big part in Batman: R.I.P., and he plays a role in Batman and Robin with Grant [Morrison]’s stuff. But he’s not the villain, you know? In those things, he’s not the guy that is sort of pitted against Batman during those storylines.

And so in that way, if you look back, it’s hard to find a big story with the Joker in a long time, even though he’s in the movies, and the animated stuff, and other places.

I looked at that and though, you know what? If we’re going to bring him back, and he’s been away for at least a year here, but he’s also been away from having big, central stories about him for awhile, let’s do it in a way that’s really going to be a grand slam for all of us emotionally, psychologically with our characters.

That means, look, Kyle [Higgins], Gail [Simone] and Scott Lobdell and Pete Tomasi, this is your one chance, and my chance with Bruce, to pit the Joker against them in a way that no one has ever seen, you know? This is the biggest, most twisted Joker story we could do, in the way that he is trying to cut these characters as deep as he can, psychologically, emotionally and literally.

Nrama: I take it then that this is not going to be in Detective and The Dark Knight?

Snyder: We are several months out from when it’s going to tie into the other Bat-books, so the details of that are still being ironed out. But I can definitely tell you that it’s going to be in Batgirl, Batman and Robin, Suicide Squad with Harley, Nightwing, Red Hood and the Outlaws, and Teen Titans for Tim. And I can tell you that right now, it looks like he’s going to make an appearance in Catwoman also. I don’t want to say that other comics might not be a part of that, because we’re still talking about that stuff, and about when it’s all going to hit.

Nrama: Is the approach to this similar to how the you did “Night of the Owls,” in that you opened it up for whoever wanted to utilize the story in their books?

Snyder: It is, but it was a little more structured. What Joker has planned does culminate for all of them in a particular way. So this is different from “Night of the Owls” that way.

In the Joker story, there is a big, crazy ending that they need to work toward.

It was, “You know your character better than me. Gail, you know Batgirl better than I do. Kyle, you know Nightwing better than I do. Joker is here to break them. That means Joker is here to tear down their world the way he did to Jim Gordon in The Killing Joke. You know what I mean? He’ll do anything — rape, kill, anything. He’s the worst nightmare come to life. So whatever you think your character’s greatest weakness is, that’s what the Joker is coming for. So you can kill your whole supporting cast. You can do anything you want. If you ever get a chance to really tear apart the world of your character, this is it, with Joker.”

The stipulation was to do that level of story and nightmare, and of course, then there are some big surprises coming at the end of all of them.

So it was a little more structured. And the thing I loved about “Night of the Owls” was that it was so much about Gotham history, and for everyone to pick a particular moment in Gotham history to explore. But in this one, it’s deeply personal. This is like, the Joker is the guy who comes after you, looks you in the eyes and says, “I’m going to destroy everything you love. And laugh while I’m doing it.”

And that means very personal and impactful stories with a lot of ramifications, as opposed to what we were doing in “Night of the Owls,” which was more about Gotham and its history.

(original interview conducted by Vaneta Rogers for Newsarama)

Jul 092012
 

Scott Snyder also had a chance to talk to the crew of Comic Vine about his art and Joker in General, Here is a transcript of the interview.

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This is the Joker bigger, badder and more twisted than you’ve ever seen him before.

 

Comic Vine: How will your Joker differ from past versions? Similar or different from his appearance in Black Mirror?

Scott Snyder: It will be similar to his appearance in Black Mirror in some ways. For me, that’s sort of the genesis of the Joker I consider most my own. In the way that he there, for example, doesn’t need his grin and have his iconic face in that issue to be who he is at his core. He’s just scary and sort of out of his mind.

More importantly I think that the Joker that really represents the kind of thing I love about the character is he like the demon on Batman’s shoulder. He really seems to know things about his enemies or the people that he’s going after and what unnerves them. It’s his job, as he sees it, to expose the darkest corners of Bruce’s heart. He feels he knows them better than anyone else. He serves him as almost a court jester to his king in that way. In that, he makes these horrifying nightmares to life to make Bruce stronger. He feels he has a very special bond and relationship with him that way. It’s something that only the two of them share.

That Joker, to me, is something that’s built on a lot of versions that have come before but is also important to me in a personal way. It’s my own take on the mythology of this event that we’ll explore in this event. It has to do with the symbolism of the court jester, the tarot card of the joker, Peter Pan and all kinds of stuff that I’m going to roll into it to make it something that’s different even if it’s built on the legacy of the character.

CV: What’s your favorite Joker story and why?

SS: My favorite Joker story is more of a constellation of things. THE KILLING JOKE is probably my favorite simple because when I first read it, it blew me away with its psychological complexity and the richness of the relationship between Batman and the Joker. The ending of that where they’re sort of laughing together is one of my favorite scenes in all of Batman. There’s an homage to the opening of THE KILLING JOKE in the opening of this story as well with the rain. That would have to be my favorite even though I’m not a humongous fan of the comedian part of it. I do think the brilliance of that is the ambiguity that’s introduced at the end. The Joker says he doesn’t quite remember if that’s how it happened. So the idea that that might not be his origin is something that really saves that part and makes it really brilliant.

Close behind would be Frank Miller’s THE DARK KNIGHT RETURNS where the Joker was just catatonic until released was just genius. Similarly, Batman Beyond: The Return of the Joker [animated movie] is another favorite and behind that is ARKHAM ASYLUM by Grant Morrison.

CV: What’s the most underrated Joker story?

SS: I think the Batman Beyond: The Return of the Joker. Honestly I think a lot of the Denny O’Neill/Neil Adams stuff. I don’t know if it’s so much underrated but more that we don’t talk about it as much as we could. For the level of darkness and complexity of the Joker that was introduced there. Also in the animated stuff, again, I don’t know if it’s necessarily underrated but at the same time I feel, for me, it holds a lot more resonance than I expected it to when I first saw it. So I think I probably underrated it myself.

CV: If Joker did die, as he almost did in his first appearance in BATMAN #1 (1940), who would be Batman’s top villain? An existing one or a new one?

SS: I think no matter what, he’d come back. It’s impossible to think of Batman without the Joker. He’s sort of his dark twin. If I had to pick another villain…to me, Joker is the product of Gotham. Gotham is both the greatest ally and villain of Batman. There are others. I love Two-Face and so many of the rogues. Two-Face would probably be next on my list of interesting villains to explore.

CV: Should Joker be used sparingly in stories?

SS: Yes, definitely. Believe me, I really feel Joker is the greatest villain of all time. There’s no reason to touch him unless you’re really going to do something that you feel is a game changer of a story with him. Something that’s really relevant to who he is. I’ve tried to be very cautious about using him and setting it up over the past year and taking him away from the table so he could come back in this big way.

When you think about it, he is used very sparingly, that’s the irony of it. People seem to think he’s around a lot in other mediums but in comics. Before No Man’s Land, I think the biggest stories with him was in the 80s. I loved his role in BATMAN R.I.P. and I loved his role in GOTHAM CENTRAL but as the central villain of a story he’s not used that much. Here we wanted this to be his big giant return. This is the Joker bigger, badder and more twisted than you’ve ever seen him before.

CV: Speaking of R.I.P., it was mentioned in the announcement that Batman will be fighting to protect his secret identity in this story. Will there be any clarification over events in RIP? Did Joker become aware of Batman’s identity?

SS: It’s not going to reference R.I.P. at all, honestly.

CV: Do you feel Joker knows his identity…or maybe you can’t answer that right now…

SS: I loved the way Grant handled the Joker where he seems to know more than he lets on. There will be the question of how much the Joker knows.

You won’t have to have read R.I.P. to understand what he’s claiming to know or how he seems to know what he knows. It will all be completely contained in this story.

People should read R.I.P. because it’s fun and brilliant but if you’re out there and haven’t but there’s no connection and this isn’t predicated on that at all.

CV: Is there any other comics we should read first like DETECTIVE COMICS #1 where Joker’s face gets cut off or SUICIDE SQUAD #7 for more on Joker’s face and Harley?

SS: You don’t have to read anything. Of course I would say go read those. I love Tony [Daniel] and Adam [Glass] and you should pick up their series because they’re doing great stuff in them. I don’t want you to feel you have to read anything else to understand what’s happening in BATMAN ever. That’s what I meant with R.I.P. also. I would never write a story that was dependent on another story

CV: Will you be touching on Joker’s past or origin at all?

SS: Not really, no. It’s not really about that. I could tease the fans and say, “Oh wait and see, maybe we’re going to redo his origin.” Honestly it really isn’t about that. It’s much more about the Joker having a big mission and a really big point to prove and an axe to grind. He’s coming back and saying, “There’s a reason I got my face cut off. There’s a reason I’ve been away for a year. There’s a reason I’m setting the traps I am for you guys. There’s a reason I’m as violent and angry as I am coming back and how I’m different. Why I’m dressed the way I am, why my face looks the way it does, why all of this stuff is happening…” There’s a really big point he’s coming at Batman. It has to do with how he views himself in the Bat mythology and how he views Batman and the twisted logic that he has.

Part of the fun will also be to see how he’s going to burn down the whole house. That means he’s going to take on all of the other Bat-characters as well. Part of fun will be you’ll have something completely self-contained.

This is something that’s going to pit the Joker against the other members of the Bat Family in their books. This isn’t something I’ve really had a chance to talk about too much. You will see him go after Nightwing and Batgirl, Damian and Tim even in TEEN TITANS. Also Jason in RED HOOD. Even though those stories will be completely self-contained and you won’t need to read them to understand anything in BATMAN, Batman will also be 1000% self-contained.

You’ll get to see Joker square off with all the members of the Bat Family in ways you’ve never seen because part of the fun is in that even though he’s fought Barbara or went after her because of what he did in THE KILLING JOKE, he was actually going after Jim Gordon. He hasn’t actually squared off with her. He’s very happy to say that to them. To Nightwing he’ll say, “I’ve never really faced you. I’ve only used you as a pawn.”

He can say the same thing to Jason. “I only used you to get at him and now I’m looking at you. I’m coming for you and I’m going to burn your world down.”

None of them have really taken on the Joker in this way. The arc is called, Return of the Joker: Death of the Family.”

Batman #13 on sale October 10, 2012

(Original interview posted by Tony “G-man”Guerrero in ComicVine HERE)